In this bonus edition of the podcast, William Collins have taken over the feed to play a new episode of their podcast, Ideas Matter. In this exclusive extract, science writer Phillip Ball talks to his editor Myles Archibald about the ideas explore in his book, How To Grow A Human.

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As #PublishingSoWhite continues to shame publishers into diversifying their lists, Colin Grant discusses some of the anxieties and complexities beneath the surface; Andrew Motion on why he keeps returning to William Wordsworth; Kate Miller reads a new poem, "Turned-down"

Wordsworth’s Fun by Matthew Bevis

The Making of Poetry: Coleridge, the Wordsworths and their year of marvels by Adam Nicolson

Wordsworth’s Poetry: 1815–1845 by Tim Fulford

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